"What's the F***ing Point?" — ep 24 —April Lang on Staying Curious & Being Vegan for the Animals

We hear about "going plant-based" for health all the time — it's probably up there with the Keto Diet as the biggest dietary trend right now, and The Economist called 2019 the year of the vegan.

The environmental impact of eating meat and dairy has started to gain more traction in the media as well, with numerous recent studies agreeing that ditching animal products from your plate is the single biggest way to decrease your impact on the earth.

But if you're like I was until a couple years ago and don't happen to run in the same circles with many animal activists, there's not as much discussion in mainstream media about the animal rights side of veganism.

In this episode with my guest April Lang, we each share about why we decided to go vegan — not just with our diet, but also our overall lifestyle choices.

As I mention in the intro, it's very important to me that anyone listening knows that I am not judging them for their food choices. There is plenty I do on a regular basis that is "judgeworthy," but I certainly hope that others give me grace for the things I am still learning and working on. There are many different causes and issues to spend your limited time and energy on (animal activism being just one), and we need all stripes of people committed to all different kinds of social and environmental justice work to keep moving the planet in the right direction.

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About April Lang, LCSW, SEP

April is a psychotherapist in New York City, Certified Humane Education Specialist, and author of the book, Animal Persuasion: A Guide for Ethical Vegans & Animal Advocates in Managing Lief's Emotional Challenges. She also writes the column, "The Relational Vegan" for the online magazine La Fashionista Compassionista,and is a Certified Humane Education Specialist. In addition to working with ethical vegans in her private practice, she does couples counseling and helps individuals through life transitions, animal bereavement, and trauma. She also runs support groups for vegans and those who have lost an animal family member.

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Valerie Martin

Valerie Martin, LMSW, is a Primary Therapist at The Ranch residential treatment center, where she works with eating disorders, addiction, trauma, and co-occurring mental health issues. Valerie focuses on a holistic treatment approach of mind + body integration, using Acceptance & Commitment Therapy (ACT), somatic and bioenergetic therapy, Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), psychodrama, 12-step, and shame resilience. She is also a Certified Sexual Addiction Therapist (CSAT) Candidate. Valerie received her Bachelor of Science degree in Communications and Master of Science degree in Clinical Social Work at the University of Texas in Austin. She is an active member of the First Unitarian Universalist Church in Nashville, and emphasizes spiritual exploration in her work with clients.