"What's the F***ing Point?" — ep 27 —Timothy Gordon on weaving a life of meaning

Hot damn, y'all. Words do not suffice to describe my interview with The Zen Social Worker, Timothy Gordon. This was probably my favorite conversation yet.

Grab your notebook, your tissues, and get ready for your brain to explode onto the ceiling as mine did during our call. (I am happy to report that I am now back in one piece.💁‍♀️🧠)

I can already say Tim will be a repeat guest — and on this episode, here's what we dig into:

  • How the universe kicked him out of the “safe” path and into entrepreneurship

  • Mindsets of collaboration versus scarcity

  • The impact that his adoption and trying to connect with his birth family has had on his self worth

  • The value of befriending our difficult/painful thoughts and feelings, and recognizing when that it can also be adaptive to distract or avoid

  • The importance of unhooking from our unhelpful stories and beliefs to chase the life that you want

  • Why we need to acknowledge cultural appropriation within yoga and how we can become part of the solution rather than the problem

  • The issue with viewing yoga as primarily an athletic, physical practice

  • The basics of Tantra yoga philosophy

  • How we can create a false hierarchy and patriarchy if we misinterpret yoga (or anything else for that matter)

  • Universal versus individual consciousness

  • The epistemology of yoga - why do we do what we do?

  • Ontological versus a-ontological philosophy - how do we structure our beliefs about reality?

I strongly encourage you to check out Tim's YouTube Channel, and his book (co-authored with Jessica Borushok) The ACT Approach, which won the 2018 Benjamin Franklin Award for editorial and design excellence in the Psychology category.

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About Tim Gordon

Timothy Gordon, MSW, is a social worker in Canada and internationally recognized peer-reviewed ACT trainer. He specializes in treating attachment and trauma related disorders. Tim is also a yoga teacher who integrates movement and yoga practices into his work. Tim's research has included yoga as a mental health intervention, ACT for chronic pain, and ACT with neonatal intensive care units. Tim is passionate about empowering people in various settings to use ACT, he has worked with Canada's Parliament and is involved in bringing ACT to subsaharan African countries with his colleagues at Commit and Act.

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Valerie Martin

Valerie Martin, LMSW, is a Primary Therapist at The Ranch residential treatment center, where she works with eating disorders, addiction, trauma, and co-occurring mental health issues. Valerie focuses on a holistic treatment approach of mind + body integration, using Acceptance & Commitment Therapy (ACT), somatic and bioenergetic therapy, Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), psychodrama, 12-step, and shame resilience. She is also a Certified Sexual Addiction Therapist (CSAT) Candidate. Valerie received her Bachelor of Science degree in Communications and Master of Science degree in Clinical Social Work at the University of Texas in Austin. She is an active member of the First Unitarian Universalist Church in Nashville, and emphasizes spiritual exploration in her work with clients.